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Discussions about the BBC BASIC language, with particular reference to BB4W and BBCSDL
kigohhere
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Hi, I read the review recently and it was written by an Itch member. The review looks like a thoughtful and objective article. Different aspects are mentioned in it. Promoting BBCSDL on Itch.io looks like a correct decision. This type of detailed review makes the developer of BBCSDL know what nonusers think about BBCSDL or BBC BASIC. Maybe the future versions of BBCSDL will be changed in a suitable direction and will be much more popular.

http://basic4all.epizy.com/index.php?to ... 58#msg3658
https://bbcbasic.itch.io/bbcsdl
https://notimetoplay.org/engines/bbc-basic-review.html

Suddenly, I remember an old discussion thread "Ask them directly'.
https://www.bbcbasic.co.uk/forum/viewto ... f=7&t=1340
Hated Moron

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kigohhere wrote: Mon 06 Feb 2023, 03:29 Maybe the future versions of BBCSDL will be changed in a suitable direction
Most of the criticisms in the review are of features of BBC BASIC which originate from its inception in 1981, and which are so fundamental to the language that they can never be changed; for example the Cartesian graphics coordinates. If you dislike those features, use a different language!

As far as the last comment is concerned, "The else if construct is a lie", that's not even accurate. There is a way of having a 'genuine' ELSEIF:

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      IF condition1 THEN
        REM Do something
      ELSEIF condition2 THEN;
        REM Do something else
      ELSEIF condition 3 THEN;
        REM Do a third thing
      ELSE
        REM All other conditions
      ENDIF
kigohhere
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Hated Moron wrote: Mon 06 Feb 2023, 21:12
kigohhere wrote: Mon 06 Feb 2023, 03:29 Maybe the future versions of BBCSDL will be changed in a suitable direction
Most of the criticisms in the review are of features of BBC BASIC which originate from its inception in 1981, and which are so fundamental to the language that they can never be changed; for example the Cartesian graphics coordinates. If you dislike those features, use a different language!


Hello, if I were the author of BBCSDL, I would want to read all nonusers' detailed reviews. Their detailed reviews may explain why it is so hard for BBCSDL to make nonusers become new users.
Hated Moron

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kigohhere wrote: Sun 12 Feb 2023, 05:04 If I were the author of BBCSDL, I would want to read all nonusers' detailed reviews. Their detailed reviews may explain why it is so hard for BBCSDL to make nonusers become new users.
Since you think I'm doing such a terrible job (a view shared by several other members here, admittedly) and you're so sure you could do better, perhaps you would consider taking on the role of supporting BBCSDL yourself?

As my Alzheimer's disease inexorably progresses I will become less and less able to support it, and I expect it will be only a few weeks or months before I will have to give it up entirely. At that point you could take over.

One thing is certain, your constant criticism is not going to motivate me to spend even more time on BBC BASIC than I do now (and have for the last 42 years), more likely the opposite.
Hated Moron

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On 12/02/2023 14:13, Brian Jordan via groups.io wrote (cross-posted from the Discussion Group):
kigohhere wrote: Sun 12 Feb 2023, 05:04 Hello, if I were the author of BBCSDL, I would want to read all nonusers' detailed reviews. Their detailed reviews may explain why it is so hard for BBCSDL to make nonusers become new users.
But you are not (the author) and you are making assumptions about what the author does, or doesn't, read.